Edward Hendrie's Defense of Flat Earth
February 13, 2016
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February 13, 2016
Stuart D said (February 16, 2016):
well done for posting this article.
It takes guts as the world is so completely deceived by the heliocentric globe earth indoctrination that an individual opens themselves up to wrath
of deceived critics that abound in the world today.
I know whom I have believed.
A clue... it isn't some guy with an agenda.
The Holy Bible KJV 1611
Chris said (February 15, 2016):
Aircraft use things called "gyroscopes" to maintain attitude and direction. (I have already turned off what passes for thought in a large portion of the populace.)
Similar to the fact that most people have no ability to conceive, much less explain, how an entire automobile functions, very few bother to even attempt to understand gyroscopes.
Gyroscopes, which are spinning masses mounted on gimbals ("multi-directional hinges" for the scientifically illiterate) possess a property known as "fixivity in space".
Breifly stated: "A frictionless UNCOMPENSATED gyroscope's spin axis will continue to point in the same direction unless external force is applied".
It is just a property of things that spin, like why a spinning top does not fall down.
If a gyroscope is started with its spin axis pointed at the SUN and left free to re-orient by means of gimbals, it will keep pointing at the SUN. If started at noon, it will point up, as the sun moves it will keep pointing at the sun as it reaches the horizon, after which it will point BELOW the horizon, pointing straight down at midnight and then towards the sunrise in the east.
Seems like proof the sun goes "under" the earth, not in a circular track over a flat surface (or in anticipation of the mind-hyenas distracting non-rebuttal, the gyro is moving the sun).
Gyros for aircraft must be "compensated" for both earth rotation and transport rate. This is because it is important to maintain level flight, the need for which is not subject to disinformation campaigns (as of yet).
To "compensate" a gyro, GRAVITY (not density) is used. A "leveling" system of some type must be used to gently nudge the gyroscope into conformity with the facts of motion over a spherical earth. Whether the gyro is moved by motion of the plane (as when flying), or of the earth (as when parked), weights or mercury level switches are used to accomplish the "compensation" of maintaining the "local level". When maneuvering, the small amount of compensation required does not cause immediate problems.
It is because some people understand these things and design corrections for them that airplanes do not "fly off into space" (which is not possible since something called "lift" is needed for heavier-than-air craft to fly).
I shall not discuss the attributes of "inertial navigation" (which would not be understood by most, and would annoy the hyenas).
What is necessary is that when real science shows that certain things are not, did not, or could not happen as we are told, real science must be relegated to the level of fantasy, which is not difficult when dealing with a population with near complete ignorance of what science is supposed to be, what passes for it these days, and with no real powers of discrimination (the ability to tell one thing from another).
I am reminded of a quote: "The dark ages were not really that dark, but there were a lot of people running around spreading dark." (W. P. King)
Peter G said (February 15, 2016):
The fact that this previously respected "truther" has now come out with this complete - not even pseudoscience - crocka book
Is proof indeed of where his loyalties have been the whole time.
I find it ridiculous that his explanation of the"non existence" of gravity continually proves the concept of gravity by refering to the "relative densities" of various materials as an explanation of why one will settle on top of another while not realising that this is because of GRAVITY!
"Jesus Wept" what an IDIOT !
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Peter
I am opposed to throwing the baby out with the bath water.
Much of Hendrie's other work is valid. e.g. This excellent article:
http://www.henrymakow.com/newsmediacollaborated.html
TH said (February 14, 2016):
To get to the point - yeah, it's a psy-op.
Scholars and historians have known for thousands of years the Earth is a globe.
Columbus never believed the Earth was flat. He had at least one of the maps which compose the hundreds-of-years old Piri Reis maps to guide him. They show the sphere of the Earth, and a part of Antarctica as it appears without ice.
But about modern observation. I spent 25 years as a tv news reporter and anchor. Because
I was often live in the field, one thing I did was observe, and sometimes help as our satellite truck
operators tuned in our satellite live shots. I know it's popular to believe there are no working satellites, but the truth is quite different. If you operate a tv KU or satellite truck, and don't correctly point your transmission dish at the appropriate satellite above the horizon, you will have no
live shot. We called them birds - and yes, the birds are up there in the sky, somehow. You have to point your dish at the CORRECT bird in the southern sky, then adjust transmissions on your end ( the ground ) to make the shot work. There are entire operations in which people guide satellite traffic all day. It's quite real.
As for the curvature of the Earth, this is really obvious if you travel much, or spend any time at the beach.
I live in coastal Georgia, and any given day I can go to Tybee Island and watch the tankers as they come into port and as they leave. On the way in the roll up and over the horizon. They sink below it in like manner as they leave. Ever live on the East Coast but watch a late football or basketball game in the west? It's getting to be dusk at 6pm in the late winter in Georgia - but in California where it's 3 o'clock, it's still bright sunshine. I don't just have to believe what I'm shown on live tv either - a simple phone call can confirm this phenomena. This is actually simple stuff.
The hard questions involve the fact that the sun, moon and stars appear to revolve around the Earth. I think they actually do, and I think Geocentrism is correct. I think the flat earth movement was designed to discredit Geocentrism and make everyone who doubts the official NASA story look foolish.
Rejecting the official story is okay - as long as we're careful about what we do accept. Our schoolbooks are a joke, but the FET is a joke too, and we have to be smart enough to know when someone is yanking our chain, like with flat earth.
Andrew said (February 14, 2016):
no need to beat our brains out trying to refute these "flat earth" idiots.
let them answer just this one simple question:
how thick is this disc called earth?
if they can come up with a proveable answer (not conjecture), then I will become a convert
Paula said (February 14, 2016):
The proof that they are giving that the world is flat is actually a confirmation that the world is in fact a sphere, because the first 300 to 400 feet of the buildings are obscured by horizon, which is exactly what you would expect at 57 miles away.
Derek said (February 14, 2016):
Instead of admitting they faked the moon landings, the criminals and liars behind NASA concocted the flat-Earth deception operation as a rearguard action against their critics. NASA is utterly without honor and ought to be defunded.
Bryan said (February 14, 2016):
"Curvature plays no role whatsoever in architecture and engineering, which it definitely should."
That's funny.
Curve per inch works out to .000126263. And .3409101 for the width of Sears tower.
Pete P said (February 14, 2016):
I can't believe that in the 21st century there are still people who still believe that the Earth is flat. Especially readers of Henry Makow's site. I guess some people will go for any crazy conspiracy theory out there. People like Pythagoras, Philolaos, Plato and Aristarchus already knew that the Earth was a sphere and that it revolved around the Sun centuries before Christ's time. I'm astounded that some people still haven't caught up to those discoveries 2,500 years later.
Forget about reading long-winded books with convoluted theories. Here's the only proof you need. Take a series of airplane flights headed in the same direction, say eastward. Take a plane flight from New York to London. Then from London to Moscow. From Moscow to Tokyo. Tokyo to Los Angeles. Los Angeles right back to New York. Would this be possible if the Earth was flat? Case closed.
Tony B said (February 14, 2016):
I very much like what Migchels wrote on this latest promoted insanity. Agree totally on the moon walking crap. It's no different from the Navy Seals killing bin Laden for the third or fourth time that he died.
BTW, it is simply logic concerning the "level" flight of airplanes. They set their altimeters, I think they are called, to keep the plane on an even keel with the earth. An equal distance from the general surface. That is, they more or less follow the surface of the earth. So nothing is proved either way by that "level" flight. However, as another commenter wrote, if the airplane flew constantly in one direction it would fly off the flat earth into space. Or there would be one hell of an upheaval (or is it "downheaval") if it lunged underneath to follow the bottom surface since no more top surface existed. Maybe that's where all the aliens hang out. Or would they all fall off?
JF said (February 13, 2016):
I am reading the Hendrie article. He makes some embarrassing errors. The ratio between forces is all wrong. Gravity -- by all accounts I've read, one of the weaker forces -- is still mighty enough to bend light around a star, which I'm pretty sure was empirically proven. We are tiny little bits on a mighty mass of a planet. I'm certainly no scientist, but it makes sense to me that gravity would trump centrifugal force by orders of magnitude.
Hendrie also fails to explain an observation that I have challenged multiple flat earthers to explain: the fact that the sun SINKS OVER THE HORIZON. Every sunset I have ever seen features a sun sinking VERTICALLY. If the disk scenario were true, then we would expect to see the sun swerving (right or left) and receding from view. On top of this, the flat earthers like to claim that light only travels so far. Very well. Then explain why the sun doesn't recede laterally to a pinpoint before vanishing every night.
I have leveled this challenged to multiple flat earthers, and not a single one of them has bothered even to try to give me a logical explanation. The sunk SINKS. Case closed.
Doug P said (February 13, 2016):
Flat earth conspiracies are ridiculous, as ridiculous as rockets getting outside the Van Allen radiation belt. The moon landings are quietly laughed about in the engineering community. No discussion of them is permitted in classrooms, like 9-11.
Ed said (February 13, 2016):
'll tell you why so many non-operatives fall for the FE nonsense. Eric Dubay uses a form of hypnotic induction that is discernible to the lay person by noting the measured cadence of his speech. Joel Osteen does the same thing. Not only is Eric able to put them under through a youtube video, but once he does he can program them to do his bidding, provided that it doesn't fall outside the range of their normal behavior.
Sheila C said (February 13, 2016):
Over the years of my conspiracy research, I've had my assumptions proven wrong again and again. So I've become very open minded about researching conspiracies, regardless of how improbable they initially appear.
I took a week last summer to research the flat earth theory. I gave it a good chance. I watched many videos on the topic and read many articles. And I concluded that it was a bunch of bunk.
There are many things claimed by flat earthers that I cannot verify for myself. But they are all overshadowed by the one thing that I am absolutely sure of.
Like millions of others worldwide, I have stood on the edge of the ocean and watched the sun set below the horizon. The sun disappears completely and it gets pitch dark where I live. This is not possible on a flat earth. As L. C. Vincent notes, on a flat earth the sun would always be visible from every part of earth.
I have posed this question to numerous flat-earth forums and always got a condescending lesson in "perspective," ie, the fact that things get smaller and appear to disappear as they recede into the distance. This seems to be their knee-jerk rebuttal, but it's irrelevant. For one, I already knew this, and for two, I do NOT see the sun get smaller and smaller until I can't see it at all. I see a big, fat sun sink beneath the horizon. Flat earthers can't explain this and it is the nail in the coffin for this ridiculous theory.
Sheila C said (February 13, 2016):
Over the years of my conspiracy research, I've had my assumptions proven wrong again and again. So I've become very open minded about researching conspiracies, regardless of how improbable they initially appear.
I took a week last summer to research the flat earth theory. I gave it a good chance. I watched many videos on the topic and read many articles. And I concluded that it was a bunch of bunk.
There are many things claimed by flat earthers that I cannot verify for myself. But they are all overshadowed by the one thing that I am absolutely sure of.
Like millions of others worldwide, I have stood on the edge of the ocean and watched the sun set below the horizon. The sun disappears completely and it gets pitch dark where I live. This is not possible on a flat earth. As L. C. Vincent notes, on a flat earth the sun would always be visible from every part of earth.
I have posed this question to numerous flat-earth forums and always got a condescending lesson in "perspective," ie, the fact that things get smaller and appear to disappear as they recede into the distance. This seems to be their knee-jerk rebuttal, but it's irrelevant. For one, I already knew this, and for two, I do NOT see the sun get smaller and smaller until I can't see it at all. I see a big, fat sun sink beneath the horizon. Flat earthers can't explain this and it is the nail in the coffin for this ridiculous theory.
Paul said (February 13, 2016):
Henry many things about life and science are still debatable,However your point I might add to is if you travel 25000 thousand miles as you say at the same latitude in either direction and the earth was flat you would not end up where you started if the earth was truly flat as the flat Eathers claim , you journey would instead end in space with no land beneath you in one of the two directions if the Earth was indeed flat !
TJC said (February 13, 2016):
Very disappointing. There is more proof of a flat earth than a curved earth. You keep posting bullshit from some idiot that gathers all the disinfo spread by the shill organization Flat Earth Society. Those of us doing real research, real experiments that prove its not a sphere dont believe that crap.
Most of what that guy has written is easily debunked but you dont care about that do you?
Kevin Boyle said (February 13, 2016):
The "seeing tall buildings from 57 miles" or "seeing the shoreline from miles out at sea"... these are easily explained by the simple phenomenon of the refraction of light.
the famous "mirage" seen in the desert is caused by light approaching the ground at a shallow angle when the ground is much hotter than the air above it. (i.e. when the light passes through a temperature gradient with temp decreasing as height increases). In this situation the light is refracted UPWARDS so that when your eye thinks it is looking at the ground it is receiving light from the sky and the illusion is of pools of water on the ground.
When the temperature gradient is reversed as with light passing over a cold sea (the sea is usually colder than the air above it excepting in the depths of winter) or over cold land early in the morning the bending up the light is DOWNWARDS not up, i.e. light effectively clings or tends towards the curvature of the earth.
This is why tall buildings and shorelines can be seen when we might not expect to see them. Thinking this proves the earth is flat is as false as believing that the 'water' you come across in the middle of the Sahara is real and drinkable.
David R said (February 13, 2016):
Henry I'm surprised that you waste your time on this nonsense of flat earth. As stated on your web site the Earth's shadow on the moon phases proves the earth is round.
A airliner at any altitude uses atmospheric pressure to maintain a correct distance above the surface of the earth. While flying on the British Concorde at a altitude of 60,000 feet above the earth I witnessed the curvature of the earth, and could see the black outer space while looking up from my window.The flight was during the day light hours.
About WHITE genocide, For many years now the evil elite have removed white males from the work force. I have witnessed this many times here in America (Africa) . I live in South Carolina and all the stores and banks I visit now have only black people working there. The end is near.
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Ken Adachi said (February 16, 2016):
Ken Adachi said (February 16, 2016):
Whew. I'm wondering. Is it mind control programming? Hypnosis? Cult programming? It's surprising to see so many people embarrass themselves by embracing this idiocy with such determination - and going public with it, no less. In every case, the proponents of this absurdity have no real grasp of basic science, physics, geometry, physical laws, etc. They cherry pick and contort physics into pseudo science mush that's groundless. The superstition and ignorance are amazing to witness. They are convinced they are a special breed on Enlightened Individuals and the rest of us blindly cling to comfortable "myths" passed down from century to century.
Light and radio waves travel in a straight line. There are limitations on the distance light or radio beams can travel due to the curvature of the earth. Otherwise we could transmit a radio signal beam from atop Mt McKinley to Moscow if the earth was flat. There are a number of ways to prove curvature using geometry and basic laws of physics, but we have incontestable photo evidence. . .. . . . .
Photographic evidence of a round earth has been accumulating since the late 1940s. The US was able to shoot a rocket up to 249 miles above earth in 1949. In the early years of rocket development, the US and Russia would ALWAYS send cameras with FILM to record every flight from blast off to recovery of the film and camera. During the 1950s you saw news reels in movie theaters of monkeys in space flight and you could see the earth receding from the rocket as it goes up from a port window behind the monkey and get up to a height where you could clearly see the curvature of the earth. Film from high altitude weather balloons, X-15 flights to the edge of space, the orbiting Space Shuttle, the many space stations of both US and Russia before detente all have recorded MILLIONS of photos of the earth from 200-400 miles above earth showing the earth as a round sphere. How about weather satellites? How about the Hubble Telescope? All imaginary?
It's really annoying to even have these conversations. It's an affront to rational and reasoned thought. I'm just going to ignore any future emails I get on this. Enough.