Can We Trust the King James Bible?

June 17, 2013

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LEFT, Masonic handshakes in the original
King James Bible




"As the Bible itself exhorts us to stay away from occult and witchcraft practices, it is paradoxical that Christians should embrace a work mastered as it was by high-ranking members of the occult."



(Editor's Note: I reserve judgment on this question, and present it for discussion. The New Testament has always struck me as authentic.)





By John Hamer
(henrymakow.com)



In my view, the translation
of the existing biblical texts prior to 1603 into what became the 'King James' Bible in 1611, was a work of social engineering by the English Elite.  This was undertaken to coral the masses into mental servitude to Luciferianism/Rosicrucianism. It was a step away from true spirituality, whose tenets presented a clear danger to the establishment then, and as it still does today.

Most foreign language versions of the bible have been derived from the King James Bible; therefore these deliberate falsifications are compounded many-fold.

It is universally agreed that there are a mass of so-called 'translation errors' in the KJV, but what if anything, may be significant about that fact?

xJohn_Dee-ash-sm.JPGIn the late 16th century, immediately prior to the KJV becoming the de facto standard bible, Sir John Dee, left,
 was an Enochian black magician.  Dee and Francis Bacon, the author of 'The New Atlantis' were both instrumental in the production of the KJV.  As the Bible itself exhorts us to stay away from occult and witchcraft practices, it is paradoxical that Christians should embrace a work mastered as it was by high-ranking members of the occult.

As well as being Queen Elizabeth's 'spymaster', Sir John Dee was a prominent member of The Worshipful Company of Mercers, which are Masonic Lodges by another name, led by a Worshipful Master. If the Puritans of the 16th and 17th centuries had the power, they would have burned adherents of the KJV at the stake for witchcraft!

Freemasonry was always Luciferian in nature.  The first three (blue) degrees of the order up to Master Mason, are absolutely identical to the initial lower orders of witchcraft?   

The Worshipful Company of Mercers is responsible for most of our social institutions.  Both Gresham College and the Royal Society were derived from this Masonic organization. In turn, these two abominations have given us Luciferian pseudo-science through the gradual creation of a scientific dictatorship which denies the existence of a spiritual and moral dimension.

james6.jpgTHE BIBLE

The official KJV scholarship committee completed their work in 1610 and passed the manuscript to King James I (left).  The King enlisted Sir Francis Bacon and his cohorts, who kept it in their possession until 1611, when it was published.  We may never know exactly what happened in that intervening period.

Many Satanic symbols and Freemasonic motifs were originally placed within the pages of the 1611 KJV Bible.  The Rosicrucians believed they were creating symbols which would emanate demonic power. I further believe that Bacon and King James firmly intended to create a Rosicrucian Bible to seduce the English-speaking peoples into the 'mystic Christianity' of Rosicrucianism.

The Masonic handshakes are extremely significant as they provide proof that Bacon and King James conspired to produce a totally Rosicrucian 'handbook'.

ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT TO BE OCCULTIZED

The KJV Bible and the Shakespearean plays (well known to be esoteric masterpieces - but definitely not written by William Shakespeare)
were part of a plan to subvert and 'occultize' culture. Popular religion was to be hijacked through the new 'People's Holy Book' - hence the King James Version of the Bible.

Thus, this two-pronged attack on humanity was meant to propound the Masonic agenda.  However,  its proponents had a rude awakening. Their new Bible was almost unanimously rejected by the religious hierarchy of the time. It was almost completely reviled and shunned due to the Satanic symbolism, which was instantly recognized for what it was.  Indeed Anglican pastors absolutely refused to replace their existing texts with what they regarded to be the work of the Devil.

Eventually, around the year 1650, a 'toned-down' version of the KJV was produced with all overt occult references removed, but nevertheless significant 'translation errors' remain - in abundance.

TRANSLATION ERRORS

For example, the scriptural Hebrew word (which means 'so be it' or 'verily') is 'Amein' and not 'Amen'.  Likewise, the Greek equivalent is also 'Amein'.  The Egyptians had been worshipping Amen-Ra, the great sun-deity for more than one thousand years BC and before he was known as Amen-Ra, he was known simply as Amen.

Amen was the god of life and procreation in Egyptian mythology and only later identified as 'Amen-Ra'.  Smith's Bible Dictionary agrees with this statement.  Have we been misled down the centuries to invoke the name of the Egyptian sun god at the end of all Christian prayers?

Indeed almost every page in the KJV has arguably been subtly amended.  Then there is also the case of the Bible's 'missing' books.  Only a few have been published, such as the Book of Enoch and the Book of Jasher but they are still regarded as missing as they do not appear in the bible.
 
Some more missing books:
 
* Book of the Wars of the Lord (Num. 21:14)
* Book of the Acts of Solomon (1st Kings 11:41)
* Book of Samuel the Seer (1st Chr. 29:29)
* Book of Gad the Seer  (1st Chr. 29:29)
* Book of Nathan the Prophet  (1st Chr. 29:29)
* Prophecy of Ahijah (2nd Chr. 9:29)
* Visions of Ido the Seer (2nd Chr. 9:29)
* Book of Shemaiah (2 Chr. 12:15)
* Book of Jehu (2 Chr. 20:34)
* Sayings of the Seers (2 Chr. 33:19)
* An Epistle of Paul to the Corinthians (1 Cor. 5:9)
* An Epistle to the Church at Laodicea (Col 4:16)
* Other prophecies to Enoch (Jude 1:14)
 
One inevitably wonders exactly what Sir Francis Bacon knew about these works.  The KJV Bible credits King James by stating that this Bible was 'diligently compared and revised by his majesty's special command'.

What was King James' 'special command'?  Could it perchance have been Bacon and his 54 secret scholar / translators?  We do know that after the first five Books of the Bible (the Pentateuch) that the Bible is no longer written chronologically.  It was King James' and his employees who decided that this should be the case.  Today, some Bible scholars firmly believe that these important works are missing because their messages  did not agree with the prescribed version and thus did not convey Bacon's intended edicts. 

The changes made to the KJV turned the Bible into an esoteric rather than a spiritual work representing God's message.  Bacon and his co-conspirators, King James, John Dee et al,  set out to hijack a sacred work to deceive the masses into passively accepting the tenets of Rosicrucianism and Freemasonry, disguised as the word of God.
 
 Also by John Hamer:

Titanic Sinking an Insurance Scam? 
Churchill's Father was Jack the Ripper
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'John Hamer is a researcher and author.  His latest book, 'The Falsification of History' is available here.


SOURCES:

http://www.bibleufo.com/anomlostbooks2.htm


http://www.sirbacon.org/Mather_KJV/Bacon_KJV.html

 

http://www.sirbacon.org/links/bible.html

 

http://www.sirbacon.org/tudhope.htm

 

http://www.rosicrucian.org/home.html





First Comment from Marcos:

Things like the validity of a translation are easy to check. The KJB has been universally approved by scholars as one of the best versions of the Text Receptus. It was also the spark that initiated a huge spiritual revival in the Anglo world.

The author is a militant (catholic, maybe? Knight of Malta? occultist?) but an amateur in this subject. Why does he want to push people away from a Bible that has helped save so many? Why not focus in the many false and corrupt translations that abound today? Qui bono?

Try  the book Defending the King James Bible by D. A. Waite  in order to have a true analysis of the subject. The present article is of very low quality.


The author John Hamer comments on comments:

"Well my piece certainly seems to have generated a very mixed bunch of reactions!  I would firstly like to say that I do not like having arbitrary labels of any kind applied to me and therefore just for the avoidance of doubt, I am not a militant, a Catholic or an occultist and nor am I a Knight of Malta.  I have my own sincerely held spiritual beliefs as many of you will do, but that I believe is a very personal matter.  But, if I do have to have a label applied, then I am a researcher and author who is merely trying to get at the truth and as such can only go where my research leads me.  I have no particular axe to grind but simply present my findings for others to consider.
 
Obviously I appreciate that what I have written goes against some people's deeply and sincerely held beliefs and for that I make no apologies.  How can we grow and learn unless we are prepared to consider other possible scenarios from time to time?  We may ultimately reject them as nonsense of course which is everyone's prerogative, but to never consider them in the first place, to me is a gross self-deception.
 
Maybe it's just me but the whole point of the piece was to defend Christianity against such practices and NOT endorse them.  I apologize if the point has been missed by some people, but I was trying to convey the idea that Christianity has been hijacked by the authors of the KJV for their own non-Christian, Pagan agendas and I am lamenting that fact and not approving of it.
 
I am indeed not a specialist scholar of the Bible and I defer to those whose knowledge of this area is far greater than mine, but this is a much wider issue than religion or Christianity.  It is one more very tiny piece in an absolutely massive jigsaw puzzle."

 
http://theconspiracyreview.weebly.com/the-falsification-of-history.html
 

Comments for "Can We Trust the King James Bible? "

Rosie said (June 19, 2013):

I started reading this article and felt I needed to express my opinion of this subject right away. We must be aware that many of the symbols, handshakes, and such may have already been in existence and thereby adopted by the Freemasons. I just found out last week that the bible never refers to the Godhead as the trinity. This was something that was made up by the evil one to mimic God's trio.

The bible says, Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my word shall never pass away. While it is true that the bible was written by human hands, (therefore there should be allowance for error), there is nothing so significant as to change the original message that God wanted to convey to His people. In the times that we are living in now, it is important to make up our minds and stand firm on the word.

I know that there is a place in the bible that ask, How long will you halt between two opinions...choose ye this day whom you will serve. The bible also talks in the book of James about being double-minded. We have to make up our minds once and for all that God is indeed who he says He is and that His word is true. If we do what the word says and give our hearts to following God with a pure conscience, He will prove that His word is reliable in every way.

With all the truth being uncovered these days, we can not afford to trust in any one to impart truth to us. We have to go to the word for ourselves and develop a personal relationship with our Savior. Everything that is going on in this world today is outlined in scripture. The key, is that you need the help of the Holy Spirit to unlock the true mysteries of the gospel. The more I learn of the corruption in this world, the more I am convinced, God's word is true.


Art Granda said (June 18, 2013):

Kudos to the latest John, Doug, and of course Adrian below. Truth is indeed written on our hearts and souls, and is incorruptible. That alone should be our guidepost in life. The truth of the Creator is easily understood by children, it is not complex at all. Adults though have trouble with it. I suspect that as we age and immerse ourselves in the world, we listen to, and tell, lies and half truths which act as a shellac on our souls, burying them more and more until we can no longer "hear" what it is our souls are trying to tell us. Lost then, we search for answers … and as adults we turn to "holy men" and their complex disjointed translations of scripture.

Sin takes people further from the truth, which leads to more sin. The only way to have our eyes re-opened to the real truth is to STOP SINNING and never turn back to it, ever. Jesus forgave sins, but the deal was (and still is), as He said (paraphrasing), "You are forgiven, now go forth and do not repeat this sin again". He is our father after all, and like any father He loves us dearly and expects us to learn from our mistakes.

What part of "test everything" do modern-day Christians -not- understand?


Robert Geis said (June 18, 2013):

As one well-lettered in Ancient Hebrew and Koine Greek (just take a look at the books I have written (esp. Divinity of a Birth, Exegesis and the Synoptics, and Life of Christ), I can tell you that this article (in the subject line) validly re-opens the Pandora's box of a questionable KJV translation. The role of the Roscrucians in all this has been well documented by Dr. Peter Redpath (who wrote the foreword to my book The Christ From Death Arisen [you can Google his name and project in the Classics and Thomas Aquinas). He writes esp. about this in his works on Descartes.

As for the NT, I maintain it was originally written mostly in Hebrew, with Greek later as the Christian community sought to move itself away from the Judaic communities after Vespasian's destruction of the Temple in 70 AD. I do believe with minor exceptions we can grant the Koine translations legitimate status (and when there are discrepancies, they are not of a doctrinal nature, but more of the status of nuance or incidental and inconsequential word.)

The author is correct that the KJV did fiddle with the OT chronology (another hornet's nest, I might add.)

Congratulations on making the KJV comments available in your website. Of course (and I can attest personally to this) the academic community already has its "doctrine," and woe betide whoemver seeks to shake the apple cart.

E.g., Augustine tells us Matthew was originally written in Hebrew, I have shown the Hebrew subtext in Matthew in a way that I believes defies (or at least greatly impedes) refutation, and no one in the academic community wants to take up the issue. Why? A Hebrew Matthew shows the Gospel was written far earlier than many claim the Gospels were written and thus the less room for "error of memory" claims. What I find bizarre is that exegetes today simply ignore the great and monumental thinker Augustine in his assertion, while there is no exegete (now or in the past one thousand years [perhaps save Aquinas]) whose intellect comes close to his. Talk about arrogance! They ignore him because the self-invalidating Enlightenment topos rules academia in Scripture studies today, and too many academics have placed their reputation on its (what I will call) claptrap.

Again, If you look at just the debate on Heidegger and his issues with Jewish thinkers you can get an idea of what happens in academia when the accepted wisdom is challenged, etc.


John said (June 18, 2013):

All bibles have modified the word.

Most important are the commandments. They are like the US Constitution. Everything builds around them.

If you want to know the most pure commandments, which in fact are 12, look for "Das Evangelium des vollkommenen Lebens". There are certainly correct english translations available.

This 12 commandments validate themselves, the completeness of them can be felt. Unlike the modified commandments, where parts are missing, turning them into black/white rules, putting life in a tight corset.


Doug said (June 18, 2013):

Seems that quite a few of your readers are ignorant of their own cognitive dissonance. On the lone basis of the fact that so many books of the bible were removed at the ecumenical councils of Trent and Nicea, we can say beyond a shadow of a doubt that what we have today is purely a book for social engineering. Check out the book of Enoch for example. Mind blowing stuff.... like your commenter Adrian said, we can trust nature and our hearts.


Abe said (June 18, 2013):

I just wanted to let your readers know that the Aramaic translation of the New Testament is quite profound and even has many of the same type of Bible codes that can be found in the Old Testament using computer matrices.

http://aramaicnt.com/research.htm

Peace in Christ to one and all


Peter said (June 18, 2013):

"Can we trust the King James Bible?" Hmmm...In what way is this question flawed?

I live only 15 minutes drive from Stratford upon Avon and it never fails to make me chuckle when I see the legions of beguiled tourists who flock there to happily snap away with cameras, hammer blows to the mind each one reinforcing the nonsense they have chosen to believe.

It was the scriptorium of Sir Francis Bacon who penned the works of the Bard and in this endeavour we see the early expression of what
today is Hollywood and the mass media industry continuing to program us with various memes as they see fit. So it was with the creation of
the KJV.

As you have shown the effervescent ego displayed in those first versions betray the crooked intent of the original crafters. But why should our scepticism begin there. Are we to believe that it was only in the days of Dee, Bacon and James that man started to yield to crooked techniques?

Surely its all tosh we have no idea how messed with it was since the very beginning.
One thing is for sure..It was written as a clear piece of programming for us Humans from the very start.

As such I give it a wide berth


KK said (June 18, 2013):

I am a little late in adding my two cents to this discussion, but I do because this issue is a poignant one to me. I have been taught that the KJV is a good version of Scripture because one can easily look up the original language via the Strong's Exhaustive Concordance and the Smith's Bible Dictionary. I have mentioned this before in response to other articles you published, and I will mention it again...the key word here is discernment. It does not matter which version of the Bible one works with, if one possesses the discernment to distinguish the truth from falsehood. Obviously, if one believes in the one true God, one can believe that He can readily confer understanding to those whom He will, regardless of the intellectual prowess of the highly intelligent people that would take it upon themselves to defy God.

No matter how complete the deception, God will provide to His people those who can still distinguish the truth from falsehood. It is only a question of whether we (ugh) commoners have the discernment to distinguish who is telling the truth versus those who are so talented in lying and calumniating. Have no doubt...we (the true people of God) will figure out the truth, and put it to those who have so arrogantly and selfishly have obfuscated that same truth to their own evil purposes. To those that fit that description, be on notice! You do not have much time, and we will be taking names and kicking ___. shortly. You fill in the blank.


John said (June 18, 2013):

The only hint of occultism I've heard of regarding the KJV (although not unique to the KJV) is in regard to the Chapter/Verse numbering. Consider:

- Psalm 118 is the middle chapter of the entire Bible.
- Psalm 117 is the shortest chapter in the Bible.
- Psalm 119 is the longest chapter in the Bible.
- The Bible has 594 chapters before Psalm 118 and 594 chapters after Psalm 118.
- If you add up all the chapters except Psalm 118, you get a total of 1188 chapters.
- 1188 or Psalm 118 verse 8 is the middle verse of the entire Bible

Who was calling attention to the number 1188 and why? Was it some occultist to whom that number represented his secret tradition, like writing graffiti on a high cliff to brag he had been there?

For a more scholarly criticism of the KJV see D.A. Carson's book: The King James Version Debate: A Plea for Realism.


Ricky said (June 18, 2013):

This article was written by WHOM? Is he a New Ager?

For YOUR information, Dr. John Dee the REAL "007" died in 1608 so that alone makes this FICTION about the KJV a HOAX.

While it's possible that Francis Bacon and his allies were "Shakespeare" writing that huge volume of plays and sonnets, the bulk over 80% of the King James Bible was actually the work of William Tyndale (c.1494–1536) who died as very REAL martyr for the Faith clear back in 1536.

Tyndale was set up by rabid Catholic Sir Thomas More, with his spy in Europe in Belgium. Tyndale was betrayed by Henry Phillips to the imperial authorities,seized in Antwerp in 1535 and held in the castle of Vilvoorde (Filford) near Bruxelles/Brussels. He was tried on a charge of heresy in 1536 and condemned to be burned to death, despite Thomas Cromwell's intercession on his behalf. Tyndale "was strangled to death while tied at the stake, and then his dead body was burned". (The strangulation was not fully effective and Tyndale partially revived, it was reported that he was aware of being burned but died in a quiet, stoical manner). Tyndale's final words, spoken "at the stake with a fervent zeal, and a loud voice", were reported as "Lord! Open the King of England's eyes."

In the 1600's the devout King James was there as answer to William Tyndale's prayer. This murder is recorded in Foxe's Book of Martyrs:

http://www.ccel.org/f/foxe/martyrs/fox112.htm

It is also recorded in the 1660 Martyrs' Mirror or The Bloody Theater, first published in 1660 in Dutch by Thieleman J. van Braght.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martyrs_Mirror

I might add that Foxe's Book of Martyrs and the huge volume Martyr's Mirror ARE the most definitive REAL history of the Church from the time of the 1st Century Apostles in the Book of Acts.

This article was a travesty and insult to the memory of William Tyndale and disgusting LIES, Dr. Makow.

WHO wrote this article with what agenda REALLY?

The scholars who REALLY worked on the KJV found over 80% of William Tyndale's work to be accurate and overall it is his work which he did long BEFORE the KJV to put the Bible in the poor man's hands took away the power of BOTH Catholic and Protestant leaders over their laity. So Tyndale was opposed by BOTH Catholics and Protestants who lusted for their power and wealth seeing Tyndale as a very real threat as did SCUM Sir Thomas More.

More wrote "UTOPIA" that IS about the Grand Design of the New World Order in its own way.

Dr. Makow as Scholar par excellente, You should research this info before publishing it to be very frank with You.

The KJV cost human lives to be put out and the publishers who put those woodcut plate images in the 1611 versions was NOT the fault of the translators nor Tyndale.

King James was devout and slandered/defamed by MANY enemies during and after his death who had plans for criminal agendas.... like Calvinist shill Oliver Cromwell the disgrace of Thomas Cromwell, who wrought real chaos for over 20 years so the very groomed Charles II could come back as order from the Netherlands and House of Orange=Venetian Black Nobility to be Ordo ab Chao in 1661 and set up the City of London within London after the Great London Fire in 1666 that he was complicit in with Euro Black Nobility.

In case You wonder who wrote this:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/cfp-radio/2013/05/30/the-hagmann-hagmann-report

You can hear me there.


Adrian said (June 18, 2013):

The only authentic books, direct from God, are Nature and our Hearts. The rest are laughable man-made propaganda. Encourage study and experience of Nature. Encourage listening to the Golden Rule in every human heart. These are entirely adequate for a humble and worshipful existence. They indisputably come from God and have the pleasant side effect of not leading to religious wars and planetary destruction.


Kev said (June 18, 2013):

AMEN, An adverb derived from a Hebrew verb 'amen, to support (itself from a root, steadfast). It's frequently found in Semitic tongues as a confirmation or categorical assertion of the truth of a statement. It may be placed at the beginning of a discourse, where it means "truly"; or at the conclusion of a statement where it means "so be it".

Amen was the usual response of the Jewish people to prayers said in the synagogue or in their homes. The Christians adopted this word, which is found so frequently in the Gospels. Twice in the N.T. the word is used as a noun or verbal adjective; once it stands for Christ (Apoc. 3:14), and once for the glory given to God through Christ (2 Cor. 1:20)
(CATHOLIC BIBLICAL ENCYCLOPEDIA Old and New Testaments by STEINMUELLER and SULLIVAN)

Real Catholics (not Novus Order) are forbidden to read Protestant Versions of the Bible. Catholics are obliged in conscience, to use the Catholic's Douay Version and not the King James Version. This is a disciplinary law of the Church to which they owe obedience; and violation of that law is, of course, sinful.

(Radio REPLIES THIRD VOLUME by FATHERS RUMBLE and CARTY)


Ed said (June 18, 2013):

I would like to know who translated the name(s) of God out of the Bible. The original name that he instructed us to call him was Yahweh. This was simply replaced with God, simply meaning deity. There is also a conflict of interest with Saul-Paul, who turned the church into a business and even witnessed an event when a couple was struck dead for not paying their fair share in the church. This seems to go goes against Christ who instructed people to sell their things and give it to the poor and not an institution. Also, Jesus¨ desire for a moneyless society is evident when he did not have Caesar¨s coin when asked if they should pay taxes.

I believe that the Bible does have the possibility to be corrupted and even states so in the book of Revelation, "whoever adds or takes away from this book will be added the plagues of this book." I believe the masonic manipulation is evident with these same players, in Psalm 46 where the phallic connection so loved by these name-change players is slipped into the scripture shake and spear in Psalm 46.

The Bible I use is ExeGeses, a literal translation Bible. We have more insight into the cultural happenings at the time also. Instead of saying nations in the Old Testament, we are given goyim.


Tim said (June 18, 2013):

n regards to the article of "Can We Trust the King James Bible?", the Bible has been greatly reduced in size from around 500 books to only 66-80 books we now have. Additionally, there were important changes made to the Bible by surviving Pharisaical Jews a couple of centuries after Jerusalem fell resulting in the Massoretic Text that all Protestant Bibles are based on. Here are a couple of sources:


From http://www.thelostbooks.com/intro.htm
"Through a series of Universal Councils, he (Constantine) and his successors completely altered doctrine without regard to biblical edict, set up a church hierarchy of his own design, and established a set of beliefs and practices, which are the basis for all mainstream Bible-based churches. The separation of the Protestants and the Roman Church caused a physical split, but the beliefs and practices established by Constantine remained almost identical. Very little has changed since the 4th century Councils changed the face of Christianity. An effective practice instituted was the purging of any book in the formerly accepted biblical works, over 80% of the total, that church leaders felt did not fit within their new concept of Christianity. The doctrines and practices remaining in the surviving books were effectively eradicated by simply changing them by replacing clear scripture with Church-sanctioned doctrine. Constantine began what was to become a century’s long effort to eliminate any book in the original Bible that was considered unacceptable to the new doctrine of the church. At that time, it is believed there were up to 600 books, which comprised the work we now know as the Bible. Through a series of decisions made by the early church leadership, all but 80 of those books, known as the King James Translation of 1611, were purged from the work, with a further reduction by the Protestant Reformation bringing the number to 66 in the "Authorized" King James Bible."

I highly recommend Gordon Ginn's, The Final Apostasy. He relates that the Jamnia Pharisaical School was in operation from AD 70 to AD 135. It appears they changed the OT text of about 200 prophecies concerning Christ and made them point to Simon bar Kochba. This text was used by Jerome to translate the Vulgate and later used by the Jewish Massoretes to produce the Hebrew text that is the source of our modern Bibles.


One of the missing books of the Bible is The First Book of Adam and Eve. A very touching narrative of what happened to Adam and Eve after they were kicked out of the Garden of Eden. I was surprised how many times Adam and Eve died from extreme sadness and grief over their separation from God and how God showed compassion on them. This book and The Second Book of Adam and Eve reveals the origin of why the 3 Wise Men brought gifts of gold, myrrh and frankincense to the infant Jesus, why Jesus was in the tomb for 3 days and why blood was required as sacrifice for sins. God gave many signs in those books that clearly points out the fulfillment in Jesus Christ as Messiah. No wonder the Roman Emperors and the Pharisees did NOT want these books to be included into the Bible. http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/fbe/fbe005.htm


Duane said (June 18, 2013):

The problem here is not which bible is the holiest, or most correct... but rather how scripture is interpreted and used in the real world.

Remember evil is capable of a gentle face and the perceived holy has often been found later to be foul....... of course they have also destroyed many of those who can make a real difference.

The arguments over which bible is best takes on a Hegelian principle..... Latin Vulgate or king James? New international or etc etc etc?.... you could say god or man?, reason over emotion?, subjectivity over objectivity?, new age over old age?...... all carefully contrived divisions.

We argue the toss over words (wordsmiths are hateful people.... just spend time in an ordinary meeting dealing with trained managers with the leadership capacity of a rats turd) but forget the primary principles and as a result .... fools rule our lives because the fundamental facets of the bible are about the description of the abuse of power and how the rest of us should deal with it. Frankly we have fucked up and dont deal with it at all.

Vatican II destroyed the concept of a true bible. If there ever was one. The other issue is the authority of the priesthood. When the curtains of the temple were torn in two, according to NT scripture, the inference was that you didn't need a priest, a king , etc to pray with god, you can do it yourself. When the boss gave us the lords prayer, it was a revolutionary act, because no one knew how to pray at the time, they went to the priests and spent a lot of money for them to do it on their behalf. More importantly, they assume unless they go through proper "channels" the boss doesn't listen....... Bullshit.

At the moment none of us can listen to our own soul, because we have betrayed it ... all of us are guilty here. We have a choice... beat ourselves up ... or do something about it. Most of us (including me) have failed here.

If the boss could give me a button ... I would push it without hesitation, but hope that someone far better than me could prevent that.But that is self indulgent.

Don't argue the toss over a few words in a book when you know full well where evil is located.

If you do ... the man with the horns and the pitchfork will piss himself laughing,


Anna said (June 18, 2013):

Can we trust the King James Bible?”

Reading the comments, I get the impression that some of us are really missing the point. If we do believe in God, we accept the fact that He is ALMIGHTY, OMNISCIENT and we agree with Him when He says in Timothy 3.16 that: “All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness”.

Also, it says in the Bible (any version) that: “Be not deceived; God is not mocked”. It is God, we’re talking about here!

Do you think He would allow some people (who can never compare to Him) to ridicule and twist His Holy word, so that His people can’t know its true meaning? If God could step up when they were building the Babel tower, I’m sure He could also make sure that His word is correct.

I can see how the Bible changes many lives, how it changed mine and therefore I believe with all my heart that God’s word has a power that only comes from the truth.


B said (June 17, 2013):

At end of :
http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/k1002.cfm
David Bay writes:

To God be the glory!! He prevented the greatest attack in the modern era on His Word in the English language. Queen Elizabeth I and King James placed the power of the British Throne upon Bacon's project to popularize the new Elizabethan English with a Bible which was covered with Satanic symbolism -- it was a Bible meant to be a Rosicrucian masterpiece and undoubtedly meant to gradually move the entire population into the "Mystic Christianity" of Rosicrucianism.

But, God's people were moved to resistance through the moving of the Holy Spirit and refused this awful original Bible. They accepted the clean-up version in 1650 (Circa) because the text was wonderfully accurate and all the symbols were removed. At that point, all English speaking people had a trustworthy Bible, one they could accept, embrace, love and trust with their eternal soul. Hundreds of millions of people will be in Heaven because of the cleaned-up King James Bible.


Dan said (June 17, 2013):

Tony is absolutely right. Comparison of Douay Rheims and KJV passages are often quite different. I found to my amazement that the KJV really does 'dumb down' the Old Testament. I'm not dismissing the KJV. It's just that some of the subtle construction and nuances were lost in the translation. It's still preferable to the 'New American'. The latest translations are even doing away with gender references. But if you're serious about Bible reading the Douay Rheims remains the most "intact" in English.

Something I found right away is that KJV put in Hebrew words that clearly give the narratives of Genesis allegorical meaning, but when translated to Hebrew for readers that don't speak Hebrew, the allegories are LOST. The only translation in English that preserves them is the Douay Rheims.


Stuart said (June 17, 2013):

The King James controversy is not a controversy. Freemasons did NOT write the New Testament. God is plain in Scripture, that it is ALL given by God (by inspired writings).

Translators, such as Dee, may have been in the occult, but that in NO WAY negates the plain comparison of translation. You are correct, sir. The New Testament feels right to you, because it is right. The whole Bible is right, it is the Word of God. Concerning the New Testament.....there are over 1600 different manuscripts we have found, so far. NONE of them disagree with each other. We know that the New Testament was first written in Greek, the universal language of the time. Much like Latin became the Univ language, then French, now English.

Anyway, those Greek manuscripts (the originals) can be compared in translation by ANYONE......ANYONE who cares to verify the Bible, instead of those who care only to test God. We can go back centuries before 1611, and indeed verify that what is written in our King James Bibles is EXACTLY what was written by the apostles in Greek. Aramaic was spoken among each other, but they wrote in Greek, and we can easily compare.


Anthony Migchels said (June 17, 2013):

Great article on the KJV. Perhaps unpleasant for people to wake up to this manipulation, but it's real. Bacon was one of the great sages of all time, but he was definitely a darksider.

The KJV is a truly wonderful product, I especially appreciate the profound way that layered messages survive in this translation, whereas the far worse later translations are often so one dimensional.

But that there was an agenda behind the KJV, there is no doubt in my mind about that.


Al Thompson said (June 17, 2013):

I think this article is spot on. After having spent a ot of time studying various translations of the bible, and formerly being a KJV ony type of "Christian" I believe that a good part of it is a fake. There are some spots in the bible that appears to have been proffered by modern day Pharisees or Talmudic Jews.

For example, usury or interest has been clearly forbidden by the bible, yet in Deuteronomy the Jews had the permission of God supposedly to charge a stranger interest. Even in the parable of talents it talks about how someone should have at least put the money in the bank for usury. So, one has to ask the question: is stealing from people okay when a Jew does it? What give Jews the special privilege to steal from people through usury?

I think that early Christian writings are more instructive when it comes to morality and keeping the commandments. Books like the Didache, the Epistle of Barnabus,
and many others spend a lot of time on morality and the reasons why we should keep the commandments. If you read the Testimony of the Twelve Patriarchs, you'll see how the dynamics of fornication unfold and the destruction that it causes. In these earlier writings people get to understand the reasons why one should not fornicate. So, in my opinion, the earlier Jewish and Christian writings have a much higher standard which focuses on giving the reader the information he needs to be a man of wisdom and virtue. The bible does that to some extent, but the other writings are much better.

Any writing has to pass what I call the stink test. Does the writing reflect the truth?
How do we know the author or authors aren't lying on the text? The only way I can tell is if these writings match up with the commandments and in turn the natural law. God made everyone the same way and we all were born with a latent knowledge of right and wrong. It's the same God for everyone regardless of one's religion. Religion is a big part of the problem as I believe it contributes to spiritual confusion. So it doesn't surprise me that the KJV is a masonic document.

I noticed Marcos' comments, and it is my opinion that the reality of the KJV is much worst than what Mr. Hamer describes. If he was on top of it, he would notice the contradictions. Why does Paul the Apostle swear oaths, when it says that Jesus Christ forbade the oath swearing? (Romans 1:9; 2 Corinthians 1:23; Philippians ; 1:8; Galatians 1:20; and 1 Thessalonians 2:10) If Paul was taught directly by Christ, then why would Paul swear oaths? I believe that either Paul was a heretic or someone modified these epistles. Remember, Paul was a Pharisee who would have no problem deceiving the goyim. Either way, they are not usable. And if you look at the conduct of the people in the churches, you can see that they act more like pagans than anything else.

It is very dangerous to rely upon writings as a primary source of information. One still needs to use right reason and not use the bible or any other writing as a pacifier. All of us know what is right and what is wrong and that we are supposed to do that within the natural law. A writing is only as good as the truth it reflects, and sadly, the KJV along with the other versions flunk the test.

Having said that, my position is that if Jesus Christ existed, the writings before the Nicean Council would be the more accurate. Having been through most denominations that call themselves Christian, I find that they are morally deficient in every way. Once I got away from these churches, my own conduct improved and my life got better.
http://verydumbgovernment.blogspot.com/2011/02/on-reading-and-writing.html


Tony Blizzard said (June 17, 2013):

I have for years used the original Douay Rheims bible, a direct, word for word everywhere possible, translation from the Latin Vulgate into Middle English done in France by Catholic clerics faithful to the ancient religion of England; but in France so as not to be murdered by government decree before they concluded the needed work. In this true bible that phrase from the multitude of angels has a totally different and much more logical configuration: "Glorie in the highest to God: and in earth peace to men of good will." Obviously, God does not promise peace to just anyone or everyone. We obey Him or we eventually suffer at His hand for our disobedience, which is called "sin," beside our burden of carrying the guilt of our acts, consciously or unconsciously. Not a very peaceful picture, even without God.

As an aside, I wonder how many people still realize that toleration of evil, such as homosexuality/lesbianism, abortion, adultery, etc., and but to mention designed economic evils against abundant life for the common man, are themselves evil and sinful. God demands no toleration of disobedience to His commands. It is NOT a matter of "I'm okay, you're okay." Right is right and wrong is wrong and only a few mental defectives don't know the difference.

Gordon Winrod, a Missouri Synod Lutheran, now in prison if he's still alive, did a close comparison of the two bibles here mentioned. One of his discoveries concerning prophecies was that the very word "Christ," (nowhere in the KJ OT) appears in the Vulgate and the Douay Old Testament 21 times. Even Jesus is mentioned at Habacuc 3:18. Other common names for Him have been deleted in the King James Old Testament in over 100 places. St. Jude refers to Jesus as "Dominator" but that word has been deleted from the KJ OT all 13 places besides deleting the name "Jesus" from Jude's mention that He destroyed First Generation Exodus Israel for not believing - before Jesus was born as man, of course.

Moreover, I began (but never concluded) a study of those books which were dropped from the Latin Vulgate. I was initially surprised - but not on reflection - that my first discovery was that these books concentrated on commands to kings and other rulers over populations to execute their authority over the people with not only true justice but with considerate mercy toward all. Is it any wonder that a politician would want these admonishments deleted?

For years it has amazed me that American Protestants, who still call the U.S. a Christian nation, in the same breath forever scream for separation of church and state. Is there a worse kind of insanity? But of course, the reality is that when each "believer" is his own priest - no, his own pope - there is no way you can have a state church for each person, which automatically leaves no place in the state for God as there is no agreement on anything about God or anything else. I remember, in my days in Protestantism, of constant "bible studies," wild guessing games wherein everyone's contributions began with something on the order of "Well, I believe it means this rather than that."

Another gradual understanding which proves that Protestantism, along with it's bible, was satanically designed to destroy faith in God while pretending to promote, even enhance, that faith. Faith without real spirituality amounts to confused and loose wishful thinking.


NC said (June 17, 2013):

Please do not give out my name for this one.

Here is a link to an article that explains why King James changed the bible: because he was an ardent homosexual.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Was_King_James_a_homosexual

The Wikipedia article on King James said there is great debate over whether King James was homosexual. He did have several children with his wife Anne of Denmark.

For her part, she became Catholic:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_of_Denmark


JG said (June 17, 2013):

So now the KJB is a Freemason conspiracy?
Apparently this author has not done his homework on the King James Bible.

The King James Translation was the 1st complete translation of scripture in the English language. It was primarily the work of William Tyndale who was burned to the stake for daring to translate the scriptures into the English language.

The "lost" or "hidden" books that are not included in the King James Bible were left out because they were not deemed as canonical at that time. This was settled by Church scholars such as Eusebius over a 1000 years prior to the King James Bible.

This article is 3rd rate fiction at best!!!!


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