NK said (January 10, 2024):

Authorship of The Protocols – I agree with Henry here –

https://www.richplanet.net/richp_guest.php?ref=247&part=3&person=3

At 8 minutes. Joly saw the newly-composed text! (10 mins) His Dialogue in Hell alluded to the awful stuff he had there glimpsed. I got this crucial step of the argument from Henry’s ‘Illuminati’ book."

Apparition said (August 3, 2018):

In the parlance of Truthers & Anons, the Protocols would be the original "Red Pill" document.

Norman said (August 3, 2018):

I don’t understand the whole argument that the Protocols cannot be original, because they allegedly contain plagiarized materials. The Apostle Shaul (Paul) plagiarized several parts of his epistles from other sources. Does that mean he did not author those epistles?

Until modern times, people copied other, earlier writers. That was thought to be the way things were respectably done back in ancient times. Even today, there is no shortage of plagiarism in the music industry. So let us suppose someone in more recent times hypothetically borrowed sections and phrasing from other sources—does that mean he did not assemble or author the document?

Even if the Protocols hypothetically do contain some plagiarism, why would that mean they are a forgery? If someone is hell-bent on world domination (at everyone else’s expense), is he going to respect everyone else’s “intellectual property”? One wouldn’t think so.

So even if there is alleged plagiarism, what would it hypothetically prove?

G said (August 3, 2018):

"'Protocols Deniers' are complicit in this Conspiracy, which is responsible for most human suffering and will lead to a great deal more."

Wow, Henry, that's going the distance. We now have a new group of "deniers" equally dangerous and out of control. Yeah, they've been there a long time, but you finally gave them a name, an official category. It will be easier to point the finger now. Thank you!!

ps: Denial today certainly has to clarify itself in terms of just what it denies. Some deny the whole ball of wax and that's an equally disturbing problem

Tony B said (July 18, 2017):

After reading the remarks of "Chris" that he cannot find anything of the protocols on Google I decided to see what I could find as I use the Ixquick browser (out of the Netherlands) and have it set to use only European servers. I imagine these servers also search Google but don't know.

The response to "protocols of the elders of zion" are almost limitless, both pro and con. On ebay there are pages of books by that title, some likely dismissive of the protocols.

Perhaps Chris did not word his search properly.

Chris said (July 18, 2017):

This is Chris. I've tried to do a Google search on the protocols and I cannot come up with anything.

I remember as recently as just s year ago I was able to get a lot of information on Google but, Google has shut down the finding of any information on the protocols.

Pretty soon there's not going to be any way that anybody can come up with information on the protocols except by reading stuff that you're writing.

Kevin said (August 4, 2008):

The methods and means contained within the Protocols are distinctly non-Jewish. William Cooper in his book, Behold A Pale Horse describes the Protocols as a working formula of the Illuminati, not of the Jewish people per se,' or what might be described as Jewish "leadership."

True, some Jews may be Illuminati, but this would be in spite of their ostensibly "Jewish" backgrounds, not because of them. Cooper writes, "Every aspect of this plan to subjugate the world has since [the early 1800s] become a reality, validating the authenticity of conspiracy. Author's [Cooper's] note: This is an exact reprint of the original text. This [the Protocols] has been written intentionally to deceive people. For clear understanding, the word `Zion' should be `Sion'; any reference to `Jews' should be replaced with the word `Illuminati'; and the word `goyim' should be replaced with the word `cattle." Illuminati member Leo Zagami has stated the epicenter of the Illuminati is in the Vatican.

It is the mission of the Jewish people, as the title of a book by Auschwitz survivor Viktor Frankl implies, to be "Doctor[s] of The Soul" - a nation of Priests or meta-physicians. The hope of achieving the freedom of man FROM slavery - the liberation of human beings FROM emotional and spiritual bondage, is a universal hope and experience of which the Hebrew Exodus from Egypt is a repository. It is the belief of informed Jews, all the righteous of this world are assured a place in the world to come. This transcends other differences. Whereas to be "saved" is Christian, liberation is fundamentally a Jewish concept which resonates universally with the higher aspirations of all mankind.

Liberation from the tyranny and slavery of the old world order, is precisely what the new world and the American Constitutional Republic was/is all about. Indeed, an original proposal for the obverse side of the seal of the united states shows Moses holding aloft two tablets engraved with the original Ten Commandments at the splitting of the Red Sea. This scene is encircled with the engraving... http://www.greatseal.com/committees/firstcomm/reverse.html "Rebellion Against Tyrants Is Obedience To God."

One must remember, Maurice Jolly published "A Dialogue in Hell Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu" as a parody of the fascistic character of Napoleon III, for which Jolly was arrested and jailed. Historian Konrad Heiden reports on the origins of the Protocols in his book Der Furhrer. Regardless of who wrote the Protocols or their origin, they are not a genuine representation of either Jewish thought or action.

When we examine history for who did conspire to conquer, subjugate and exploit the masses, we see Ancient Greece, Rome, Islam, Russia, Japan and the Nazis as the more likely candidates. Anti"Shem"-itism, referred to as anti"sem"itism or a hatred of the Jewish people, originates primarily from two sources - those who quest after unearned privilege and power and who also wish not to be bound by moral injunctions or imperatives, and those who view Jews as failing in their mission as Jews to uphold God's moral covenant, even though many of these same people paradoxically condemn Jews and the law as disenfranchised and obsolete largely in self-justification.

In this manner, Jews are frequently caught between a rock and a hard place - damned if they do and damned if they don't uphold the covenant received by Moses from God on Mt. Sinai 3,400 years ago. Isn't it interesting how those who bellow loudest about a "Jewish" conspiracy to conquer the world are most likely to pursue these exact same goals? Victimology is a "science" of the regressive left of which the CORPORATE COLLECTIVE is also a PARTY.

Kevin E. Abrams
www.slaveshipamerica.com

Gene said (August 2, 2008):

Way to go! You always put more truth in a short article than most people do in an entire book and you have done it again about the Protocols. I agree with you 100 percent.

Anyone that actually looks at history through the eyes of the Protocols can come to only one conclusion - they are real and explain almost all of what has occurred significantly during the past few centuries and what is occurring right now. Reading the last protocol should give anyone a full body shiver. Worship of these global banking cartel maniacs is their planned end game along with the complete global tyranny that worship would require. Of course, to be worshiped, all religion must go so that the religion of greed is the only one left. Since they control almost all of the currencies in the world, their ultimate goal is within reach in the near future.

The Islamics and the Buddhists seem to be the only ones that are holding out. Since the Buddhists are basically unarmed, the USA, along with their allies, are doing everything they can to eliminate or convert the armed Islamics to the religion of greed. Once the Islamics are subdued via WWIII, they will have what they want and they can complete their mission of global population reduction through systematic mass starvation. You can see this two pronged approach, WWII and starvation, coming to a head right now.

In my opinion, the Zionist movement was a creation of the bankers to further their goals under the disguise of the "persecuted" Jews with their unwitting cooperation.

In actuality, the crown jewel of the Zionist movement, the nation of Israel, is just bait for WWIII with the Islamics. The bankers have sacrificed the Jews on more than one occasion to get what they want and I am sure that they will have absolutely not problem doing it again. The bankers are committed only to themselves and they have no moral code other than that of evil.

Keep getting the truth out there Henry. Without the truth, no one has any defense against these criminals.

Duane said (August 1, 2008):

Thanks Duane,

Hank, (May I call you Hank?)

I don't always agree with your essays, but you got me today. Since I first became aware of the POZ, I had a tremendous problem with the alleged claim that they were a "forgery". You hadn't pointed this out but someone should...what kind of a rebuke is that?!?! Is a counterfeit dollar not just an "attempt" to duplicate the original? Is a "fake" Mona Lisa not an attempt to replicate the genius of DaVinci? Does a descent "forger" try to get caught by using a different color on the Mona Lisa or changing "In God We Trust" to "In Rod We Trust' and expect to get away with it? Of course not.

So basically, saying it is a "forgery" amounts to an admission that somewhere there exists an " original". And they are identical, except for the fact that one was an exact copy of the other.

The disclaimer that POZ is somehow an anti-semitic document created by some anti-semite is preposterous on it's face. I don't even care to venture in to the multiple reasons why. Anyone who has studied the document would have to be insane to think that some "jew hater" went to all that trouble to "frame" the Jewish race. That claim is ludicrous.

In closing, I appreciate your eloquence and your point of view and always read your postings when they appear on RENSE. I am an atheist, (only in that I do not believe in the GOD portrayed in the Bible, however) and that forms the crux of my disagreement with your POV from time to time. I am of the belief that ALL organized religion is simply a "control mechanism" that the controllers established centuries ago to manipulate humanity and maintain their power and wealth. It has worked marvelously up until now, but the damn of truth is breaking and you are wielding a large sledge hammer towards that end, even from your religious and anti-zionist POV. Keep up the great work.

I am sure that Jesus Christ (if he had existed) would have been an anti-zionist as well.

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Duane,

A friend pointed out that a forgery can be an original so i left that out.

I appreciate this letter and will post. I don't think we disagree. I often define God as a state of mind where spiritual absolutes of truth justice and beauty are self evident. If you believe in justice and truth, you believe in God.

Rick said (July 31, 2008):

Its about time someone said it !!
All too often people have accepted for granted , the standard excuse that the Protocols were a forgery, a famous hoax.
However none of these 'scholars' have answered the serious questions, like why just about every one these protocols can be demonstrated as having being enacted ...and evolving into the chaos of today's events. Harold Rosenthal in his 2 part interview..spoke as if the Protocols are the Zionist/ Masonic NWO game plan--the language similarities are striking...
We see the effects everywhere-in the control of a media which is nothing more than a corrosive force heaped upon a society in decline; the FED has been granted more power than ever --the dollar in decline. There's not much left in the script except for the enslavement of the middle class in North America by crushing inflation and debt, and a looming war on Iran.

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Thanks much Rick

Seems the public is too cowardly to even comment. What a tyranny we already live under.

-Henry

Dan said (July 31, 2008):

I read Machiavelli's 'The Prince" c1976 for a class on Renaissance ethics, along with 'The Courtier", and "The Art of Courtly Love" (other authors). Books at the time were exclusively for the courts of Europe, of course, so the contents of those books only concerned elite ethics. The rabble didn't live like that -- they weren't allowed to -- and were ignorant of how those who lorded over them lived in private life.

"The Courtier" amused me with it's snob appeal, not without the snide sense of dry humor of the 15th century playboy who penned it. "Courtly Love" was a handbook for 'politically correct' adulterous practices of both lords and ladies of the bloodline elite -- for whom marriage was just a business and breeding arrangement (still is). Amusing also when read in a cynical mood.

But Machiavelli remains in my 'top three' books I read in my youth that made me physically nauseated just trying to wrap my head around the kind of diabolical intelligence who could think such things. The other two sickening books being "Philosophy of the Bedroom" (and anything by DeSade). And of course, Mein Kampf.
Paris was the intellectual capital of Freemasonry during the 18th and 19th centuries. I've learned through research in this decade that all the 'great' artists of the modern movements were members of these clubs (I'd have to dig the long elegant names out of my files, I don't speak French, but there were some extreme high Freemasonic lodges Paris - and absolutely everybody in high society whether in politics, art (culture creation) belonged to these).
Reading your article tonight it sounds Joly's artistic license didn't conceal the source material enough? That Czarists (Glinka) recognized the treasure and and broke into the Mizraim Lodge and stole the classified business plan - and Joly was killed for letting the cat out the bag?

Could well be. But whatever document Schorst obtained, I think it was doctored, "cooked up" so it could be used to discredit and scandalize anybody who tried to use it later. Certainly those versed in it's level of scheming was a lot more adept in psyops that the Czar's minions and advisers.

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Thanks for these comments Dan. I don't think "Dialogues" gives away any secrets nor do i think "Protocols" was doctored in any way. But I could be wrong.

henry