How Men Should Relate to Women
August 18, 2018
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August 18, 2018
WD said (August 20, 2018):
Just an observation after reading the woman who echoed your take on marriage. After her admonition for women to stop bashing men, a female reader wrote that all men are insufficiently worthy of her time and men in their 40s and 50s are washed up?
I know I must be done in my sixties, but a guy in his forties? It seems a basic fact was missing and that is all young women have been conditioned to think they are deserving of a top-drawer alpha male who can beat the average guy into submission or at least tell him off in three languages. While I understand that a college educated woman thinks she deserves an educated spouse, I wonder if she has any idea what men really go through.
Essel said (August 18, 2018):
This exchange of power against love (tenderness, fidelity, etc.) is indeed at the heart of marriage in its natural component. However, there must be two conditions without which we run to failure.
1 ° / The spouses must pursue the same natural end (to found a family and educate the children) and supernatural (love and serve God to enjoy the beatific vision after death: to see de visu the truth, the Good, the Beautiful, etc., which they have aspired here). This last point being absolutely fundamental in the education of the children. Faith is transmitted through teaching AND example and a disagreement between parents on this point would be devastating.
2°/ The spouses must have received a solid moral education, and I would even say, the husband even more than the wife since it is he who will direct the boat.
If these conditions are not fulfilled, it may be possible to achieve a lasting relationship with no gaps or bursts if the husband's grip is strong enough and the woman's submission sufficient but it falls into a vulgar mafia type relationship from dominant to dominated (which finds a certain temporal security), Deceptive security of course. Or at best, a dual selfishness.
The moral value of an act is judged on its end. But the aim of human acts can not be in the power of man. For this to be so, it would be necessary for man to be master of his being, to be dependent on nothing. Which is obviously not the case: he is contingent, he has a superior and a "maker" (usually called God!) And it is this Lord and Master who dictates to his creature what he must to make life that He has granted to Him free of charge.
Alas, this is totally unknown today and, when pointed out to people who can understand, they flee or get angry, because, as has often been remarked by M. Henry Makow, they find there a certain advantage to the ambient error, which makes them complicit.
This teaching of truths necessary for life has been systematically destroyed by whom we know. Better, it has been replaced by its opposite.
In terms of male-female relationships as for the rest, the purpose of life is now "to enjoy". Running in vain after an ectoplasm called "happiness (earthly)".
Sandra said (August 18, 2018):
Lisa's philosophy of power/love in the man/woman relationship is based on her incorrect notion that a man's judgment is always better than his wife's and therefore he must have the final say in the end - that he will listen to her input but ultimately get his way. This can be disastrous. We are not talking about what colour carpet to buy. Sometimes important, critical issues are at stake. No household can leave these decisions in the hands of one person. Men can be very, very wrong at times and use their power to ruin the household and family because of poor judgment based in character flaws that don't show themselves until after the couple has been married for some time.
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Sandra
Nobody is right all of the time
henry
Tony B said (August 18, 2018):
You write that men WANT power. I see it differently.
Men are born with power; especially power over women. It has been common knowledge since the beginning of time. Not even two full centuries have passed since machinery has largely nullified man's power over the workplace. If a job was still WORK women would shun jobs because they could not do the necessary WORK. Because of machinery, most jobs today are activities, not work. Those jobs that still require hard work are still held exclusively by men.
There is one other major factor, in the "west" at least, that, even more than machinery, has neutered man's power over women. That is mistaken, unnatural law. These purposely subversive laws, by application, automatically make the woman a victim and the man a criminal in every problem that arises between them. Women have not been slow to realize the gigantic advantage this gives them at every turn and they use it without compunction. Such upside down, anti-human laws have created a destructive form of insanity in the male/female relationship and society at large.
Neither is going to change over the next few generations. The only present counter possible to correct our destroyed society is, as you suggest in your article, for women themselves to understand the sorry results of their misuse of both so as to quit using these handed-to-them advantages selfishly.
Z said (August 18, 2018):
There's a natural sexual order: Man obeys God, Woman obeys Man and Children obey their Parents. Men do not need to exchange power for love from a woman as it is NOT love but Lust (with capital L) they get.
Real Love (with capital L) has a lot more to do than simple men-women relationships. The two sexes only come together to procreate and raise children. That's all.
The rest is an illusion supported poetry, romantic movies, music, etc. When a man tries to please a woman or have a fair exchange with her, she always ends up eating him up. Because every woman instinctively inherits this black widow spider knowledge—tempting her man and sucking out his juices. A woman craves the genes of the strong and independent Alpha man but if he stays for too long with her she'll suck his juices too.
Have you noticed that Jesus only talked about the Son, the Father and the Holy Spirit - no woman, no mother, no goddess, no daughter. He came along and said - “I am the sacrifice. You don’t have to sacrifice flesh –of the boy or the ram who represents the boy – anymore.†And through his crucifixion he both fulfilled and put an end to the cult of Astarte, the Great Mother Earth - the feminist cult at the time.
That’s why Christianity has been so successful even though it was corrupted when the Romans adopted as a state religion. Nowadays, we seem to have made a full circle and the Feminine/Goddess/Satanic power rules the world once again. Women behave as if they are all Goddesses and men have been hypnotized to serve them for the mere exchange of a pussy and nothing more.
Boys are born out of woman, Men are born out of the Fatherly spirit. Every time men try to relate to women they slide back to being boys. Again and again, this phenomenon can be seen in families where a man who might be all-powerful and mighty outside his family, always regresses back to the little boy and his wife rules over him.
Men today need to realize that women will never willingly follow the natural sexual order, especially in times of abundance and comfort. Only when the time are harsh she would be willing to cooperate as her survival depends on it.
Henry Makow received his Ph.D. in English Literature from the University of Toronto in 1982. He welcomes your comments at
Barry H said (August 21, 2018):
I think there is a much simpler explanation as to why male / female relationships are breaking down. Historically speaking, men and women have held different types of power to create a perfect balance in nature. With the exception of rape, she decides whether sex happens or does not. She decides which male genes go forward into the future. She decides whether a man’s genetic lineage continues or ends. That is the power of life or death. Is there any greater power?
On the other hand, the male role has been to provide and protect, especially during gestation when the woman is most vulnerable. He continues with this role and puts all his energy and resources into the protection of his family and offspring, in many cases to the point of sacrificing his own health and wellbeing.
Government welfare systems have destroyed this balance. The government has usurped the male role by giving various forms of support, including cash benefits and physical protection provided by the police and the judiciary. She may still want a man and a father for her children, but at the same time, she is fully aware that she holds all the cards.
Now that domestic violence has been made a priority crime she can have him removed in minutes by a single phone call to the police. No evidence required. How much power is that? I’ve heard the counter-arguments that women need state protection from feckless irresponsible males who are only interested in making a sperm donation, but I don’t buy it.
Take away the welfare safety net and women will make much better choices, be more choosy, and men will naturally aspire to be better men. That is unlikely to happen as feminists have infiltrated national governments worldwide, which brings me to another point.
Should women be allowed to vote when they vote for welfare systems that ultimately make men redundant? I can hear feminists screaming at the mere suggestion of removing benefits, but I’m afraid those same women cannot see the end game for humanity if things continue as they are.