Irish Election Result: "Not as Bleak as It Looks"
February 28, 2011
"In this respect we got a good result in that the majority
of the opposition in the Dail is now committed to burning the Bankers and Bondholders." by Irish Dan (for henrymakow.com)
Right Henry this is the election result in a nutshell : New government; old politics!
However it is not as bleak as it looks, there have been some very progressive results. For example Fianna Fail, the Political Party who engaged in the cronyism politics with builders, bankers and wankers had a melt down. They lost 11 Ministers and Ministers Of State ( Junior Ministers); the party has gone from high seventies to under twenty so far ( some counts ongoing). They have no women parliamentary members and there is only three of the incoming twenty for the shadow front bench that have governmental experience. The six Green Party MP that supported them were also dumped and all failed to get elected.
In 1922 / 23 we had a civil war regarding the treaty on offer from England. Some were willing to settle for a Canadian 'Dominion Status' and others wanted to press on for a full Independent Republic. It was not a Left /Right split both pro and anti treaty revolutionaries had left wing, centre and right wing politicians. However England armed and financed the Fine Gael 'part freedom party and they won the military fight.
The Republicans never surrendered, they dumped arms and stopped fighting. They still boycotted parliament but split in 1926, Sinn Fein keeping the boycott while the new party Fianna Fail entered Dail Eireann ( Parliament). We have a three, four and five seat constituency with proportional representational system. Under this system the quota for say, a five seater, is the total valid poll cast divided by five plus one vote.
Take a typical quota as 10,000, with Mick Brown getting 15,000 first preferences, the 5,000 surplus are divided then pro-rata into second preferences candidates as given no 2 on the paper. If this is not enough to get the next leading candidate elected,then the candidates at the bottom are progressively eliminated with the voters second, third, four fifth preferences becoming de facto no 1 for the particular counts concerned.
If may seem cumbersome but it is a very fair system and it do give non party independents a chance. In this election Sinn Fein will have 13-15 seats in the final count; the Left Alliance consisting of Socialists, People Before Profit and Independent Left should have around ten and there will probably be even more Independents in the last counts. In this respect we got a good result in that the majority of the opposition in the Dail is now committed to burning the Bankers and Bondholders.
The big betrayal has been the Labor Party. They have thirty odd, their best election in their history but they are committed to working inside the financial framework dictated by the EU and they will probably join with the conservative Fine Gael party in a 5/10 government Ministerial divvy up, which will give a 3:2 Fine Gael / Labour majority.
I have gone into some detail on the mechanics of the election for your appreciation. So many Sinn Fein and left alternative people missed out by 10, 20,50, 100 or a few hundred votes. Our young third level graduates and others are leaving for Canada, Australia, England, etc.( my youngest daughter is in Scotland ) at the rate of 1,000 per week for that is over 75,000 in the past eighteen months.
These were the young mad voters who would have voted 80% plus left or radical and those 75,000 scattered over the various constituencies would have made the difference : a few hundred votes in many of these constituencies would have carried seats for the left/radical. In the absence of these 18 /30 year olds their parents generation did not go radical; they went for revenge !
That is the explanation Henry. The conservative block is 60% and inside this 60% it was usually Fianna Fail 60% / Fine Gael 40%. Fine Gael in this election achieved a 80 /20 split inside the conservative camp. We will get a more honest, effective and concerned Governance without a doubt (anything would be an improvement) but the instincts of Fine Geal are Thatcherite and we are on for devastating cuts. If Labour stayed out and went sharp left then we would have a good opposition, but Sinn Fein is eating into the working class vote so Labour are positioning themselves to align with the centre and centre left.
Debra said (March 1, 2011):
Ireland is perhaps one of the many so-called civilzations orchestrated by The Illuminati to fall, and I question what was achieved after the 1922/23 civil war that seems a orchestrated fake.
If we look back in Irish history at Michael Collins and specifically at the Illuminati influences we can see suspicion with Eamon De Valera whose actions go hand-in hand with Illuminati playing both sides. He is born in New York, raised in Ireland, becomes President of Ireland.
This most remarkable, rarely talked about fact, at least I've not seen too much attention,
was De Valera becoming (elected) President of Ireland, yet was born in the United States.
He was born in New York on the 14th of October in 1882. He "escaped execution that others did not" after the failed Easter Rising in 1916, later was elected leader of Sinn Fein.
In 1922 a bloody Civil War. In 1926 he formed the Fianna Fáil party. In 1959 he was inaugurated as President of Ireland. These are unmistakable clues of underhandedness and wonder how it was
ever explained.
Interestingly he was successful in raising a huge sum of money whilst in America used to
form the IRA. Unlike Collins, De Valera appears as another political manipulator and puppet.
The power behind infiltrators is that they are trained to work both sides skillfully, effectively. This appears to be the case with De Valera as far back as the early 1900's Gaelic revival, and quite possibly before then. The origins of the Irish Gaelic League might be questioned.
http://www.ireland-information.com/articles/eamondevalera.htm
This is the evil of double-mindedness, and is satanic. Sadly, Collins fell prey to politicians.
Nevertheless, Michael Collins a hero soldier, and De Valera with a so-called "free" Ireland.
Whilst Collins died (killed), De Valera began a successful career in politics and leadership.
The question is: was Ireland (republic of) ever really "free" or just one more political illusion.