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"Good Ole Days" Weren't

June 24, 2011


fifties-family.jpg"It was a simpler, more elegant time because people didn't divorce. My mother was on prescription drugs. I didn't see much of her; she was sleeping."




by Charlotte
(henrymakow.com)


I grew up in the sixties and seventies. My parents married in the fifties, so I was able to see at least some of how things worked in a more traditional western culture. The fact is, Henry? No one was especially happy, or functional then--either.


In fact, the only really good thing I can think of -- people just didn't divorce--which seems to always make a bad situation--worse. It just wasn't done. Like others from that era..I have good memories and really do wish we could have some of that back.


It was a simpler, more elegant time--and that could be..for that reason--because people didn't divorce. My mother, as was a number I knew of--was on prescription drugs. I didn't see much of her; she was sleeping.


My father wasn't happy; he found his solace in work. I could say well..it just wasn't a good home life but the truth is..it was similar to most kids I knew. I distinctly remember the family down the street with four girls.


This was when kids still wandered over to one another's houses to play, except--at their house--every so often, for no apparent reason..sometimes..you couldn't go there.


I was a lot older before I learned that it was because their father beat their mother on a regular basis; friends weren't allowed over around those times. I hate to say this but the only really content person we knew growing up--was "Dee Brown" who lived next door. She was a writer and an artist..and..you probably guessed--a Lesbian. She was the only one we knew of..who wasn't constantly wrapped up in some drama. It wasn't better; just--different than now.


Not long ago--I decided to go back to school. You're right; they're attempting to push a construed agenda. That's the bad news. The good news is--nobody seems to be buying into it.


I had to take a Women in History class, which I actually enjoyed immensely; everyone did, except--when she tried to push the agenda--you could look out over that sea of young feminine faces and see..they weren't buying it. And..according to their own account--for the most part--women don't buy into it.



The whole intent of giving women the vote backfired. Women should vote; they wanted women to vote for their causes. Didn't happen. The majority of women did exercise their new right but--they voted alongside their husbands.


I've had the opportunity to talk to many young gals..currently going to school. Since I'm innately nosey--I ask. Henry? For the most part? The only real change I can see in their idea of the feminine role is--go to school; get the degree so that if its ever needed, it'll be there.


Things happen. I've got friends who were widowed--young; one pregnant. They all still..just want to get married and have families. The education is just part of it--not a "career". Every career minded girl I talked to--all wanted jobs that would put a family first--like nursing..or social work. Maybe I'm asking the wrong gals but I haven't encountered even one that is shooting for a job that would challenge a man's traditional preferences..or that wouldn't work with raising a family in some way. The majority of them..want no part of Wall Street.


I agree wholeheartedly with you in the sense that the children aren't being raised correctly. Men see no real reason to be married except for the sex anymore--and..anymore..its getting to where the price is too high to pay for that. The men are either stunted neanderthals or--close to destroyed when they try to be decent; the girls are either insufferable brats, or..irretrievably damaged from "doing it right".


Both--lost. But..I don't think its the played out role that's doing it (though that really could use some work; bad manners are bad manners no matter how you look at it). I think that..the main reason this has fallen apart so badly is the very thing that makes it so attractive--the "perceived" role vs..the "practical" role.


Perceived roles run on feelings. If a man feels like he's got a partner that's working for him--he has good feelings and everything works. Same with a woman. If she gets all the right feelings--its working.


I'm actually amazed at how many marriages have broken up over the very thing that was holding it together--one's getting the right feelings; the other isn't..so..the "happy" partner is in utter shock when he/she comes home to find a "Dear John" note. Its all about--feelings, or..what they like to say nowadays.."communication". Very unstable; very unpredictable--and damn hard to keep going even in the best of marriages. Its a constant roller coaster that takes all of your energy.





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Comments for ""Good Ole Days" Weren't"

JK said (June 25, 2011):

You all are mistaken, you all need to study history a lot better. The "boomers" are nothing compared to "The Lost Generation" that followed the ending of "The War to End All Wars", aka WW-I.

This is where the "Roaring Twenties" began and was one of the most lawless and corrupt times in world history. The men who had seen hell itself in the trenches of Europe came back disillusioned and burned-out. Every single facet of the evils of the modern world was present in post-war Berlin, or Paris for example- all of it, and sometimes much worse.


Clyde said (June 24, 2011):

I remember the good ol' days. I was born in '44 and started school in 1950. We had diseases of all sorts and no cure for most of them. Polio being one of the worst. Girls had to wear dresses, no matter how adverse the environment. Boys were not allowed to have hair long enough to touch their collar or their ears. Either violation could insure a sharp rebuke and some corporal punishment. I have often heard it said "The only thing responsible for the good old days is a bad memory".


EJ said (June 24, 2011):

I'm 69. I grew up in a small, Northern California, Bay Area river town at the confluence of the Sacramento and San Joaquin rivers. With a population of about 6000 to 12,000 during my childhood to young adult phase, it was quite an incredible experience...never locking doors, playing in open fields, swamps, fishing, hiking, hunting ducks and geese, water skiing, etc.

My part of town was 1st and 2nd generation Italian, Portuguese, Spanish, Eastern European, etc. with a sweet blend of friendships and no "us/them" paradigms at play. Most people had some sort of garden, be it that dirt between the street and sidewalk or little patches around the house, etc., but one always saw tomatoes, basil, squash, herbs, etc.

Was this perfect? Probably not for as I realized as an adult, although the nearest town, 4 miles away, had a large percentage of Blacks, we had none. The downfall of our town as I see it was greed...greed of the people who inherited their families ranches and sold them to "developers" for some quick cash. The corporations came in and built factories at the river's edge and started polluting to the point the once abundant fish population was gone. Greed.

Now the town has over 100,000 people with a large percentage of illegals and Blacks. Murder, rape, robbery, etc. is everywhere there. The town, for "modernization" remodeled itself to look like any other town. It is a disgusting mess of greed and self interest by it's city council's decisions and the rest.

So, was it the good 'ol days in the 50's and 60's....you bet it was. To live in a town where a kid can wave to a police chief named "Happy" Carlson or go for long walks with friends in open fields or play in huge, pristine sand dunes, that all says yes.

Of course there were unfortunate social dysfunctions there, but we are humans, everywhere we go we bring that.


Dan said (June 24, 2011):

Post-war 'Suburbia' hardly rates as a natural habitat of a healthy society. All the elements natural village culture were replaced by surrogates. 'Main street' was replaced by the shopping mall. The grocer, butcher, and diary were replaced by the supermarket. The only place 1950's suburbia was 'idyllic' and natural was on it's television shows like Leave it to Beaver and Father Knows Best..


Paul said (June 24, 2011):

I would disagree with Charlotte about the general condition of the culture the boomers grew up in.

I happen to be lucky enough to remember those days, to have been exposed to that culture. When I speak of those days to the next generation they obviously don't know what I am talking about (they think I am lying when I speak of people who built schools, hospitals and roads for free).

I came from enough dysfunction from that time that I should have been turned off totally from anything to do with culture but fortunately there were enough real and sincere people around me to offset the influence of my parents.

To me, those days that Charlotte disparages were actually quite incredible and the boomers for the most part did not reject that the previous generation's example because of painful memories. They rejected that influence because they were selfish and wanted more free government services and more "equality" because there were too many prosperous people around that they envied and wanted more "human right" and wanted more "sexual freedom". I don't blame the generation before the boomers.

I blame the boomers who will possibly be judged more than any generation in the history of mankind because they rejected such fine examples of sacrifice and honourableness.


bg said (June 24, 2011):

"Do not say, 'Why were the former days better than these?' For you do not inquire wisely concerning this." (Ecclesiastes 7:10)

I'll go with Charlotte on this one.


Kurt said (June 24, 2011):

I grew up in the 1940’s and 50’s (b-1943) in a small Midwestern town (pop-6000) and it was a better time for children. Single parent homes were few and out-of wedlock pregnancies often resulted in shotgun weddings which surprisingly, from my personal observation, worked out for many. One girl in high school had to leave and live with grandma in another state. Everyone knew the reason but feelings of shame caused it to be hush-hush. This of course was a personal tragedy for the individual girl but provided a disincentive to other girls and thus a benefit to society in general. Today out-of-wedlock children are becoming the majority with the taxpayer picking up the tab instead of the father.


Henry Makow received his Ph.D. in English Literature from the University of Toronto in 1982. He welcomes your comments at